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    Re: Help Needed: Mystery Buildings at Disney-MGM Studios

    Number 4 certainly is a mystery, and I can't wait to find out what it's inspiration was. I wanted to show you this 1925 building "The Aztec Hotel" on old Route 66, in Monrovia (shown below or at http://www.you-are-here.com/building/aztec_hotel.html or at http://www.aztechotel.com/history.html ).
    It is obviously not #4, but I thought it was interesting that like #4, it has really, really big, "chunky" decor, unlike the Mayan Theatre's highly detailed decor:

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    Re: Help Needed: Mystery Buildings at Disney-MGM Studios

    Opps. Sorry, I see you already mentioned this one, Werner. At least now you have another photo of a cool old building!

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    Re: Help Needed: Mystery Buildings at Disney-MGM Studios

    Quote Originally Posted by RodeToad View Post
    Opps. Sorry, I see you already mentioned this one, Werner. At least now you have another photo of a cool old building!
    Photos at sites such as you-are-here.com belong to those sites. And, yes, that's a very cool old building!

    Somebody is trying to track down the story behind #4 for me. I hope I'll know more next week.
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    Re: Help Needed: Mystery Buildings at Disney-MGM Studios

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    # 10 looks very familiar to me. I have this feeling it's a real dentist's office too. It might be on colorado blvd east of glendale, but maybe my memory's just screwy. unfortunately google street view doesn't go there.
    I concur. I'm in LA, and I believe I've seen a dentist's office that looked just like that. But where, I couldn't begin to guess. I"m going to keep my eyes out for it as we drive around town.

    Darn! It looks SOOOOOO familiar. It's driving me batty!
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    Re: Help Needed: Mystery Buildings at Disney-MGM Studios

    Possible answer to Mystery 11? Fire Station No. 1 at 2230 Pasadena Avenue in Lincoln Heights. Here are two separate views of it:

    http://www.you-are-here.com/building/fire_station.html

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/doublet...7594127083662/

    And here's a nice vintage photo of it in its heyday:
    http://www.lafire.com/stations/archi...forEngine1.gif

    Finally, there's also a picture of it included in the book Deco Landmarks: Art Deco Gems of Los Angeles by Arnold Schwartzman:
    http://books.google.com/books?id=0Yp...VEkVk#PPA62,M1
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    Re: Help Needed: Mystery Buildings at Disney-MGM Studios

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_WDW74 View Post
    Possible answer to Mystery 11? Fire Station No. 1 at 2230 Pasadena Avenue in Lincoln Heights. Here are two separate views of it:

    http://www.you-are-here.com/building/fire_station.html

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/doublet...7594127083662/

    And here's a nice vintage photo of it in its heyday:
    http://www.lafire.com/stations/archi...forEngine1.gif

    Finally, there's also a picture of it included in the book Deco Landmarks: Art Deco Gems of Los Angeles by Arnold Schwartzman:
    http://books.google.com/books?id=0Yp...VEkVk#PPA62,M1
    Thank you! Another MYSTERY SOLVED! Yes, it's Fire Station No. 1 at 2230 Pasadena Avenue in Lincoln Heights.

    One of the books (I can't remember which one) on my Disney shelf even mentioned that Disney Imagineers used Fire Station No. 1 as the model for a newsstand. But my attempts to Google sites and images of Fire Station No. 1 were unsuccessful. I only found buildings that looked completely different.

    The Lakeside Newsstand at Disney-MGM became Peevy's Concoctions.

    I ran across another building that also appears to be based on Fire Station No. 1. It's the Palace Theater Block (1997) in Ft. Worth, Texas. Go to http://www.fortwortharchitecture.com/palace.htm and click on the picture of the white building. You'll see similar windows and even horizontal parallel lines below the top of the building.

    Thank you!
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    Re: Help Needed: Mystery Buildings at Disney-MGM Studios

    Okay! The participants here on MiceChat have been brilliant. You've identified most of the mystery buildings from Disney-MGM Studios. Thank you.

    Now here are some mystery buildings from Disney's California Adventure.

    Mystery 12.


    Mystery 13.


    Mystery 14.


    Mystery 15 Solved! Pantages Theater, 6233 Hollywood Blvd., Los Angeles (Hollywood)


    Mystery 16.


    Any ideas?
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    Re: Help Needed: Mystery Buildings at Disney-MGM Studios

    I know the Coca Cola Refreshment building. I just can't for the life of me remember where it is...
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    Re: Help Needed: Mystery Buildings at Disney-MGM Studios

    Mystery #15 is most definitely the Pantages Theater in Hollywood. Universal Orlando has a more complete recreation of the Pantages facade, while this one at DCA imitates a portion of it.

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    Re: Help Needed: Mystery Buildings at Disney-MGM Studios

    Quote Originally Posted by lynxwiler View Post
    Mystery #15 is most definitely the Pantages Theater in Hollywood. Universal Orlando has a more complete recreation of the Pantages facade, while this one at DCA imitates a portion of it.
    Excellent! Thank you.

    Because the façade at DCA doesn't look like a theater, I never even considered that it could be the Pantages (or any other theater). DCA doesn't have the marquee and main entrance. Instead, DCA uses a section of the building over to the right side of the entrance.

    Now I just need to find someone to snap a few digital photos of that part of the Pantages building from across the street. And I have to hope that the architectural details aren't hidden by huge banners for Wicked.
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    Re: Help Needed: Mystery Buildings at Disney-MGM Studios

    google street view of the pantages: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...39330156853012

    might not be enough quality though. Here's a flickr shot from a bad angle:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/bobtphoto/733489419/

    If parking didn't suck so much around there when I'm near it I'd try and snap a photo. If no one else steps up or finds a better one online I'll try to step up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maskdmirag View Post
    If parking didn't suck so much around there when I'm near it I'd try and snap a photo. If no one else steps up or finds a better one online I'll try to step up.
    Due to copyright and ethical considerations, I can't simply grab and reuse photos that I find online (although I can ask for permission if I find something worthwhile on a site like Flickr and there's an e-mail address). Also, I think one of the reasons people enjoy Yesterland is that most photos on Yesterland cannot be found anywhere else on the Internet.

    In the case of the Pantages, all photos that I found with Google primarily feature the sign, marquee, and entrance. The photos ignore most or all of the section with windows to the right of the entrance.

    Ideally, someone will be able to take a picture (from directly across the street) of the section of the Pantages building that has been reproduced at Disney's California Adventure. Unfortunately, much of it is probably hidden by an advertising banner.

    When I was in Hollywood last month, I was surprised how easy it was to find free 2-hour street parking during the day. As Chicago area resident, it's much harder in Chicago. (But I wasn't trying to park right by the Pantages, so I don't know how it is there.)

    maskdmirag, if you're in a position to take such a picture, it would great. If not, I'm sure someone else will be able to do so. Thanks.
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    Re: Help Needed: Mystery Buildings at Disney-MGM Studios

    I just looked at another picture of the Pantages Theater. I now think the DCA façade is probably based on a section of the Pantages building to the left of the entrance, not to the right.
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    Re: Help Needed: Mystery Buildings at Disney-MGM Studios

    Here's some help on the Disney-MGM Mystery Building #8:

    Although the building is long-gone, I think the Studio's Art Deco tower is based on the Wilshire Bowl which once stood on Wilshire Boulevard along the Miracle Mile. It appears to be an interpretation of the Wilshire Bowl and not a direct copy, but the massing and geometry appear to be quite similar. What do you think?

    http://flickr.com/photos/79761301@N00/2092055250/

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    Re: Help Needed: Mystery Buildings at Disney-MGM Studios

    Quote Originally Posted by lynxwiler View Post
    Here's some help on the Disney-MGM Mystery Building #8:

    Although the building is long-gone, I think the Studio's Art Deco tower is based on the Wilshire Bowl which once stood on Wilshire Boulevard along the Miracle Mile. It appears to be an interpretation of the Wilshire Bowl and not a direct copy, but the massing and geometry appear to be quite similar. What do you think?

    http://flickr.com/photos/79761301@N00/2092055250/
    I'm not convinced, although it's hard to tell from the photo.

    The other buildings on Disney-MGM's Hollywood Blvd. were buildings that the Imagineers could visit, photograph from many angles, and study in person. Even the Pan Pacific Auditorium entrance façade was still standing when the Imagineers were designing the park. I think Wilshire Bowl had long been demolished by the late 1980s when Disney-MG was designed and built.

    But Wilshire Bowl is clearly the inspiration for Wilshire Bowl in the defunct Hollywood & Dine eatery at Disney's California Adventure. That proves the Imagineers were aware of Wilshire Bowl, its architecture, and its significance.
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